State of the Giants

[Big Blue Fan 1011]

I suspect they were trying to keep the return from reaching the 25-yard line.

The special teams have been OK this year, but you would think they would be really good being Judge's specialty. Also, they seem to have devoted a lot of players just to play special teams.

 

[Patricia Traina]

The special teams have been OK this year, but you would think they would be really good being Judge's specialty. Also, they seem to have devoted a lot of players just to play special teams.

Yeah, that's been a big disappointment for sure. Dare I say the units have been slightly worse since Judge arrived.

 

[Big Blue Fan 1011]

Yeah, that's been a big disappointment for sure. Dare I say the units have been slightly worse since Judge arrived.

I dare say your right.

 

[Big Blue Fan 1011]

Good thing Ronnie Barnes has shut down Daniel Jones for the season.
It's very frustrating as a fan how Judge answers questions about player injuries. If they play bad, you don't know if it's the injury or they just haven't played well. It's not fair to the player or fan.

 

[Big Blue Fan 1011]

Very happy for Lorenzo Carter. He had a monster game on Sunday. Between him, Roche and Ojulari they may have some real good edge rushers if they continue to develop.

 

[Patricia Traina]

Very happy for Lorenzo Carter. He had a monster game on Sunday. Between him, Roche and Ojulari they may have some real good edge rushers if they continue to develop.

I don't know. Seems like too little too late.

 

[Big Blue Fan 1011]

I don't know. Seems like too little too late.

It would be a shame if he went to another team and had a monster year. Hopefully they can work out a one year prove it deal.

 

[Big Blue Fan 1011]

It seems like John Mara may have backed himself into a corner recently. He gave Judge a vote of confidence, but when asked about Gettleman he said no comment. It’s a complicated situation with no easy answers IMHO if Gettleman retires this year then the Giants should go outside the organization for a young up and coming GM. Then the question becomes what happens to Judge. A really good new GM may want his own coach which may not be the worst thing for the Giants and Judge. Then you have the salary cap mess for next year. All factors to take into consideration in hiring that GM.


If John Mara and Steve Tisch decide to go with for a young up and coming GM, then he should have the ability to hire a new coach if that’s what he decides. A rebuild should start with which players are keepers and which need to go. There should be a forward-looking plan to rebuild through the draft. I could see the Giants back winning in two to three years with a rebuild from top to bottom.

Option two if the Giants want to keep Judge as H/C on for next year then maybe keep Gettleman on for another season for several reasons. This is going to be critical year not only for Daniel Jones, but the enter Giants organization.

What do you think about how the Giants should proceed next year?

The Giants are at inflection point. John Mara and Steve Tisch have some big decisions to make in next few weeks. They have to get the Giants back on track to playing winning football.

 

[Patricia Traina]

It would be a shame if he went to another team and had a monster year. Hopefully they can work out a one year prove it deal.

Agree.

 

[Big Blue Fan 1011]

Agree.

For sure. It's a shame. I don't know how you build a good team without good players getting a second contract. Just to name a few Tomlinson and Hill.

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[Big Blue Fan 1011]

It seems like the Giants are going about their GM search the right way. They seem to be casting a wide net.
Now they have find the right GM and Coach.

 

[Big Blue Fan 1011]

It seems like the Giants are going about their GM search the right way. They seem to be casting a wide net.
Now they have find the right GM and Coach.

Now whoever Schoen hires as head coach will be very telling.

 

[Big Blue Fan 1011]

For sure. It's a shame. I don't know how you build a good team without good players getting a second contract. Just to name a few Tomlinson and Hill.

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I happen to be a big believer in the Giants signing their own players to 2nd contracts rather than signing expensive free agents. There's usually a reason they became free agents. If you draft right why not invest in your own players if you can.

 

[Big Blue Fan 1011]

Pat has excellent article " Joe Schoen Outlines Criteria for next Giants Head Coach"

This topic IMHO is so very important I decided to make its own thread.

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[Robert Paulson]

I happen to be a big believer in the Giants signing their own players to 2nd contracts rather than signing expensive free agents. There's usually a reason they became free agents. If you draft right why not invest in your own players if you can.

I suppose the cap dictates that not every player can be offered a 2nd contract. Choices have to be made. Franchise QB, shut down corner, Double Digit sack edge rusher, and left tackle should take precedence. After that, cap considerations have to set in.

 

[Big Blue Fan 1011]

I suppose the cap dictates that not every player can be offered a 2nd contract. Choices have to be made. Franchise QB, shut down corner, Double Digit sack edge rusher, and left tackle should take precedence. After that, cap considerations have to set in.

I think the GM and head coach have to determine their needs. What's available in the draft. Which free agents are going to be available and what's their asking price. Then you need to make plan as to how construct your roster. You're not going to be able keep every player whose contract is up. I would prefer to sign my own players who have been in the same system, and you know what you have then expensive free agents. JMHO!

Last year could have been a case study on what not to do in signing free agents. JAT