State of Giants Offensive Line

It's a shame he's injured as he was playing up to his potential this year. Good to see him take it to defensive player instead of reacting to what defense was going to do. Now if they can work on getting Matt Peart up to speed would be really good.
Thomas so far this year was playing at a Pro Bowl level. If he can't go against Dallas do they move Nate Solder to LT and start Matt Peart RT. It seams like Hernandez plays better next to Solder. Therefore may be start Peart at LT and keep the continuity between Solder and Hernandez?
 
As for Peart it's my understating that Judge and the Giants offensive staff expressed their desire to have Dave Gettleman draft Peart with the 99th pick of the 2020 draft. It was well understood that Peart would need a year to clean up his technique and get stronger. When he was drafted many experts believed he had too much athletic ability not to be a starting tackle in the NFL.
Hopefully he has progressed from last year.
 
Can't understand what Judge was thinking when he had Andrew Thomas in uniform standing on the side line when he had a foot injury. When questioned about it by the media he said that he would have only used Thomas in an emergency. This didn't make sense on several levels. He had already activated a tackle for the game. I am not doctor, but having Thomas stand around couldn't have helped his foot. When Judge was asked about the injury to Thomas' foot this week he gave his usually standard meaningless canned answer.
 
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I wonder if Judge and Gettleman wish they had drafted an interior lineman or two in last year's draft now.
It would have made sense given how thin they were at those positions going into the draft. I guess that will be addressed in next year's draft.
 
It's going to be interesting to see how well the offensive line holds up against Aaron Donald this week.
Aaron Donald may be the best defensive interior lineman of the modern era.
Whoever is playing QB for the NY Giants is going to be aware of Donald's presence.
 
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Any thoughts on how they can chip away on their 2022 salary cap problem?
Patricia Traina has a very interesting article on the subject" Why the Giants Need to Be Sellers with Trade Deadline Approaching". Excellent article. IMHO the Giants should explore trading James Bradbury if they can get a reasonable return on the trade. I really like Sterling Shepard, but he has cap hit next year of $12.5 million. I wouldn't like to see him go but the Giants probably could get some nice picks in return from a contending team. That might be consideration? I don't have the answer to this question, but is there a market for Leonard Williams? What could they get for him in a trade? What would be the trade ramifications be on 2022 cap.

Also Blake Martinez was the heart of defense last year. Coming back from an ACL injury in 2022 with a cap hit of $14 million. Not sure what the Giants should do there also?






 
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Patricia Traina has a very interesting article on the subject" Why the Giants Need to Be Sellers with Trade Deadline Approaching". Excellent article. IMHO the Giants should explore trading James Bradbury if they can get a reasonable return on the trade. I really like Sterling Shepard, but he has cap hit next year of $12.5 million. I wouldn't like to see him go but the Giants probably could get some nice picks in return from a contending team. That might be consideration? I don't have the answer to this question, but is there a market for Leonard Williams? What could they get for him in a trade? What would be the trade ramifications be on 2022 cap.

Also Blake Martinez was the heart of defense last year. Coming back from an ACL injury in 2022 with a cap hit of $14 million. Not sure what the Giants should do there also?






My guess is they'll restructure him.
 
Even though they won today the offensive line is still a mess. Too many missed blocks and penalties.
Every time Daniel Jones ran with the ball or was hit I cringed. Don't know why they haven't picked up another RB until Barkley is back as they don't use Brightwell in that role.

When Gettleman drafted Daniel Jones he said he wanted a pocket passer because running QBs don't last.
I guess Judge and Garrett have a different opinion.
 
Has reality set in with the Giants about the state of their offensive line? We heard from Dave Gettlemen that the kids were young strong and would be fine. He wasn’t concerned about the that O- Line play being a problem. Jason Garret said yesterday the O-Line would be just fine.

Dave Gettlemen was so confident as a result the Giants didn’t draft an offensive lineman in this year’s draft, nor did they sign a veteran free agent prior to the draft. Now it looks like reality may have set in. The O-Line seems to have serious issues and with no easy solutions in sight with one week to go before they face Von Miller and Bradley Chubb.

Gil Brandt a HOF exec for the Cowboys said it wouldn’t matter how many weapons the Giants got for Daniel Jones if the O- Line play didn’t improve.

The Giants spent $150 million dollars on free agents but no help for the O- Line. This will not help Daniel Jones growth or the evaluation to determine if he’s their franchise QB. The Giants effectively put themselves in cap hell for 2022 and probably 2023. Was it worth it and can they fix the O- Line to get the most out of the assets on offense.
That deep pass which would have been an easy touch down Sunday from Jones to Slayton didn't happen.
Center Billy Price whiffed on a swim move which caused Jones to rush his throw.

Hopefully he's doing well, but do the Giants and fans really miss Nick Gates at center. Price was a bust with the Bengals and Gettleman and Giants traded for him. The other OL players Gettleman has signed recently Wes Martin and Matt Sukra have been average at best.
The Giants Battleship is taking on water and hopefully the captain will be retiring at the end of the season.
Gil Brandt hade it right in early Sept (see above) when he said it didn't matter how many offensive weapons Daniel Jones had if the offensive line didn't play well. Then again that's why he was so successful with Dallas and is in the HOF.
 
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What's so disappointing is Giant fans wait all week to see their team play and hopefully win. They support the team in so many ways. The problems with the offensive line depth could have been addressed in off season through the draft and free agency and not now. The current mess was self- inflicted by Gettleman. I don't know if it was overconfidence, arrogance or whatever believing that he had solved the problem. Unfortunately he was wrong. I can only hope the whole team (players and coaches) can rise to the occasion and overcome this. Win some games the way they did last Sunday.
 
In yesterday's game Will Hernandez did a really good job along with the "2 tight ends"( Jumbo package).
Hernandez wasn't happy just creating a crease. He was pancaking people. If he could only pass protect the way he was run blocking he would probable be a pro bowl guard. The offensive linemen they have now is what they will have for the rest of the year. Way to early, but next year's draft looks like it may have some talented interior offensive lineman.
 
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In yesterday's game Will Hernandez did a really good job along with the "2 tight ends"( Jumbo package).
Hernandez wasn't happy just creating a crease. He was pancaking people. If he could only pass protect the way he was run blocking he would probable be a pro bowl guard. The offensive linemen they have now is what they will have for the rest of the year. Way to early, but next year's draft looks like it may have some talented interior offensive lineman.
Hopefully they dip into that group too.
 
Actually, I think I forgot to pick this one up in detail. But rest assured I will be writing about this at some point.
She didn't forget.:) Thank you for a great series of articles "How History Has Repeated Itself in the Giants’ Roster Building Process" It's in the Big Blue+ section. Another most read! Looking forward to reading part 3.
 
In yesterday's game Will Hernandez did a really good job along with the "2 tight ends"( Jumbo package).
Hernandez wasn't happy just creating a crease. He was pancaking people. If he could only pass protect the way he was run blocking he would probable be a pro bowl guard. The offensive linemen they have now is what they will have for the rest of the year. Way to early, but next year's draft looks like it may have some talented interior offensive lineman.
According to an article I read this week Will Hernandez is the only offensive player to have play every offensive snap this season. Booker last Sunday ran mostly to the right side of Giants line behind Hernandez, Solder and Rudolph. PFF graded the three lineman really well in the run game.
 
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