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Agree. But do they have the moxie to do it?
Great question! John Mara has to decide what direction he wants the Giants to go to be a winning franchise with sustained success. What the Giants have tried recently hasn't worked. Therefore going in a completely new direction with major changes maybe necessary.
 
Agree. But do they have the moxie to do it?
Quote from Les Snead in a Daily News article "How Les Snead, football’s most interesting GM, has Rams vying to play at home in super Bowl LVI"

“My personal paradigm, especially in sports, is we all have to take an element of risk to gain an edge,” Snead said. “I don’t think anyone should get into this business and especially take a GM or head coaching job for the main purpose of job security. I don’t know. At that point, I would question your awareness of how this whole thing works.”

The article is an excellent read IMHO.
 

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Quote from Les Snead in a Daily News article "How Les Snead, football’s most interesting GM, has Rams vying to play at home in super Bowl LVI"

“My personal paradigm, especially in sports, is we all have to take an element of risk to gain an edge,” Snead said. “I don’t think anyone should get into this business and especially take a GM or head coaching job for the main purpose of job security. I don’t know. At that point, I would question your awareness of how this whole thing works.”

The article is an excellent read IMHO.
Nothing new there. Yes, there is a degree of risk involved, but it needs to be calculated and not "balls to the wall" type of risk.
 
Nothing new there. Yes, there is a degree of risk involved, but it needs to be calculated and not "balls to the wall" type of risk.
Maybe it's a level of risk the Owner, GM and Head Coach were willing to accept. They have gone to the playoffs 3 out of last 4 years and will make a run this year. It's not the only way to build a team, but it seems to work for them.
 
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Thinking about the relationship between Daniel Jones, Jason Garrett and Joe Judge. To me if Daniel Jones had a decent offensive line, and few healthy WRs there wouldn't be a question if Daniel Jones is the franchise QB of the NY Giants. I think Jason Garrett is doing a very good job developing Jones. As the offensive line gets better and the WRs return I think Garrett will open up the play book even more. It's mutual respect between the two. Garrett is always there to greet Jones with a big smile and well done when Jones makes a big play. To me the same can't be said for Judge. Maybe it's something he picked up along his travels, but showing a player appreciation only builds his self confidence and morale. Judge has made his share of mistakes this season. He should hold himself to same standard he holds his players and coaches. If Daniel Jones hadn't put the team on his back to win those 2 games Judge's seat might feel really warm just about now. JAT
 
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If It's true the current team has to have a defining moment or win a defining game, so to give up on it or the coaches and bring on Rebuild Part 2 would be a mistake and bring about more losses anyway. I have seen flashes of what they can do. Maybe they needed time to gel is what I think.
 

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If It's true the current team has to have a defining moment or win a defining game, so to give up on it or the coaches and bring on Rebuild Part 2 would be a mistake and bring about more losses anyway. I have seen flashes of what they can do. Maybe they needed time to gel is what I think.
Yeah, kind of hard to evaluate what the team could have looked like if you can't have consistent personnel.
 
Great win! This could be a defining win to build on.
They may have found their identity also which is really important.
Great defense, run the ball and limit the turnovers.
 
I am almost convinced the Giants don't know how to use Evan Engram. Yesterday Engram was split out to the right and Daniel Jones hit him in stride for a 30 yard TD. Great throw and great catch. Then they didn't seem to run that type of play again. Not sure why they can't figure out how to use Engram better.
 
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I am almost convinced the Giants don't know how to use Evan Engram. Yesterday Engram was split out to the right and Daniel Jones hit him in stride for a 30 yard TD. Great throw and great catch. Then they didn't seem to run that type of play again. Not sure why they can't figure out how to use Engram better.
One word: stubbornness. they think he's a traditional TE. He is not.
 

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Thinking about the relationship between Daniel Jones, Jason Garrett and Joe Judge. To me if Daniel Jones had a decent offensive line, and few healthy WRs there wouldn't be a question if Daniel Jones is the franchise QB of the NY Giants. I think Jason Garrett is doing a very good job developing Jones. As the offensive line gets better and the WRs return I think Garrett will open up the play book even more. It's mutual respect between the two. Garrett is always there to greet Jones with a big smile and well done when Jones makes a big play. To me the same can't be said for Judge. Maybe it's something he picked up along his travels, but showing a player appreciation only builds his self confidence and morale. Judge has made his share of mistakes this season. He should hold himself to same standard he holds his players and coaches. If Daniel Jones hadn't put the team on his back to win those 2 games Judge's seat might feel really warm just about now. JAT
I think Judge does hold himself accountable I've yet to hear him throw anyone under the bus.
 
Well that's really good. A head coach has to take responsibility for the overall performance of the team.
It's also important that players know he has there back.
Judge preached discipline, toughness and playing smart. Things that the Giants haven't done on a consistent basis. That has cost the Giants games this season. Well coached teams play hard for sixty minutes and find ways to win. Bad teams are usually undisciplined and find ways to lose. In time Judge may be a very good head coach, but I am not sure he's there yet. Only time will tell.
 
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Judge preached discipline, toughness and playing smart. Things that the Giants haven't done on a consistent basis. That has cost the Giants games this season. Well coached teams play hard for sixty minutes and find ways to win. Bad teams are usually undisciplined and find ways to lose. In time Judge may be a very good head coach, but I am not sure he's there yet. Only time will tell.
I think this is a really big night for Judge. He has to show that the team is ready to play smart football. He really needs to coach a great game to help the Giants win.

It was refreshing to hear Garrett talk about how the Dallas offense was built through the draft. They drafted really good offensive lineman in the 1st round of several drafts. They built a great offensive line years ago. They built the line first and then they got the Dak and Zeke. Finally, the WRs. A healthy line and all the WRs RBs makes for an outstanding offensive.

That's the approach I was excited about when Gettleman was hired. He was going to fix the offensive line with his Hog Mollies. Unfortunately, he has taken several wrong turns in building a quality offensive line. IMHO, as it relates to offensive line Gettleman has let Daniel Jones down, who's taken a heck of a beating, and Giants down.
 
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