General Thoughts and Observations

It seems like this year the Giants had more key players suffer hamstring injuries. Especially among Wide Receivers.

What's that about? Any thoughts?
 
I was thinking about Jason Garrett and the offense taking a lot heat this year. I think replacing Jason Garrett with Freddie Kitchens would be a really bad idea for many reasons!

The game against the Broncos the Giants weren't ready to start the season. Judge admitted as much by saying Sept games were an extension of the preseason. The losses to WFT and Falcons it seemed like the defense just didn't make the plays to close out the games. Not sure what's going on with the defense but that needs to be fixed to the extent that it can. The teams coming up in the next 5 or 6 weeks can score a lot points. Right now with all the issues facing the Giants fixing the defense is job#1.
What do you think?
 
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I think Daniel Jones has proven that he's the Giants QB of the future.
My concern is the hits he takes running the ball. Also he's had 9 sacks through 3 games. He's been pressured on approximately 45% to 50% of his passes. I think lot has to do with poor play of interior of offensive line. That shouldn't come as shock since Gettleman an Judge didn't devote assets via the draft. The free agents they did sign retired before the season started.
Gettleman and Judge bet offensive line wouldn't sink the Giants Battleship. It's not looking good right now.

Azeez Ojulari has had a fantastic start to his career. He has a very bright future!

Really like to know what you fans think?
 
It seems like this year the Giants had more key players suffer hamstring injuries. Especially among Wide Receivers.

What's that about? Any thoughts?
Today Judge had a passionate defense of his conditioning program which he claimed leads to fewer injuries. He claimed last year the Giants had fewer injuries because of his conditioning program. In an article by Patricia Traina, she had the following quote, "According to data from ManGamesLost, the Giants had 207 instances of players missing games due to injuries last season, the seventh-most in the league. However, that data doesn't break down the injuries according to type, e.g. soft tissue or broken bone".

Judge's news conferences are starting to get old about process, improvement and injuries. The Giants record is 0-3 for which he's responsible as head coach. He doesn't seem to take responsibility as head coach for poor play calling, bad in game decisions, motivating his team or the teams record. It's a shame as he was given all he wanted to put this year's team together and the Giants are 0-3.
 
It seems like this year the Giants had more key players suffer hamstring injuries. Especially among Wide Receivers.

What's that about? Any thoughts?
Injuries continue. Now Shepard and Darius Slayton are both out for Sunday's game with hamstring injuries.
Two receivers than Daniel Jones has played the most with. Be interesting to see what happens at the wide receiver position for Sunday's game?
 
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Thinking about Sunday. It's so unfortunate that John Mara was booed. I understand as a fan the frustration of starting another year 0-3 under Judge. It was still sad to see as John Mara is a good man and great owner. Judge is responsible as head coach for the poor play of the team. Like any other HC. I wonder if he's taking any heat for the booing? I wonder if his honeymoon period with the fans, media and ownership is over?
 
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Welcome back Sequon! Great game Daniel Jones. 75 yard drive in Super Dome in OT for the win. shades of a young Eli. We have our futue QB IMHO. Hope Dave Gettleman is smiling!

Congrats to the Giants. Coach Judge finally took the shrink wrap off of Jason Garrett. Garret has done some super work with DJ. Garrett also helped Tony Romo (UFA) and Dak Prescott (4th rd pick) and turned them into a pro bowl QBs.

AWESOME Giants Win!
 
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Welcome back Sequon! Great game Daniel Jones. 75 yard drive in Super Dome in OT for the win. shades of a young Eli. We have our futue QB IMHO. Hope Dave Gettleman is smiling!

Congrats to the Giants. Coach Judge finally took the shrink wrap off of Jason Garrett. Garret has done some super work with DJ. Garrett also helped Tony Romo (UFA) and Dak Prescott (4th rd pick) and turned them into a pro bowl QBs.

AWESOME Giants Win!
The defense still has problems. It seemed like they had a really hard time getting off the field on 3rd downs. Judge didn't go it on 4th and 1 twice which hurt the Giants. Judge wasted time outs just before half time. Instead of Jones taking the Giants into scoring position, he had to throw a hail Mary which was intercepted. That and Judge's clock management is a problem. It's holding the Giants back.
 
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Giants going into Dallas to play the Cowboys is going to be a stern test for the Giants. For the Giants to win they are going to have to play a better game then they played against the Saints. The defense needs to step up and stop Dallas.

Dallas has improved on both sides of the ball from last year. My major concern is can the Giants defense slow down the Dallas offense. Dak Prescott is playing lights out. On defense the Cowboys are better than last year. Trevon Diggs already has 5 interceptions. Beating a very good Carolina team last week was very impressive.

What do you fans think?
 
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Giants going into Dallas to play the Cowboys is going to be a stern test for the Giants. For the Giants to win they are going to have to play a better game then they played against the Saints. The defense is going to have to step up and play much better then they have played this year.

Dallas has improved on both sides of the ball from last year. My major concern is can the Giants defense slow down the Dallas offense. Dak Prescott has been playing lights out. On defense the Cowboys have improved their pass rush from last year. Trevon Diggs already has 5 interceptions. Beating a very good Carolina team last week was very impressive

What do you fans think?
I am hoping this win helps the Giants turn their season around. Then reality sets in. It's going to be really hard given their schedule. I am not sure that the defense will play better this year. Leonard ( it's not about the money) Williams and James Bradberry had a career years last year which they may not be able to duplicate. Last year Williams had a lot of help from Dalvin Tomlinson (a team captain) and other role players along the defensive line. Patrick Graham last year liked to rotate capable defensive lineman into the line up. Those players are no longer with the team. I don't think the Giants are going to get as much production from Auston Johnson and Danny Shelton. The Shelton signing I didn't understand at all other he was on Pats in 2019 with Judge. I wish they still had Dalvin Tomlinson and Kyler Fackrell!

Any Thoughts?
 
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The defense still has problems. It seemed like they had a really hard time getting off the field on 3rd downs. Judge didn't go it on 4th and 1 twice which hurt the Giants. Judge wasted time outs just before half time. Instead of Jones taking the Giants into scoring position, he had to throw a hail Mary which was intercepted. That and Judge's clock management is a problem. It's holding the Giants back.
Joe Judge when asked by the media about Daniel Jones performance against the Saints. He gave usual canned taped answers. He would not acknowledge that Daniel Jones is a franchise QB. Judge told the press if they wanted to write that DJ is franchise QB then go ahead a write it in your papers. Great way to inspire confidence from your players.

The Giants down 21-10 with about 7 minutes to go, Daniel Jones lead three drives that won the game. To me that's what a franchise quarterback does. But Judge couldn't admit it. Great way to reward a player who probably saved his bacon. Sometimes I think he forgets his record was 7-13.

Last year he was going to change the culture. This year he turned the roster over was almost 50%.
What happened to the culture he built the 1st year?

As John Mara said they need to win this year. Let's see what happens?
 
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Patricia Traina

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It seems like this year the Giants had more key players suffer hamstring injuries. Especially among Wide Receivers.

What's that about? Any thoughts?
I'm not a doctor or athletic trainer, but I've always been told after you engage in cardio exercise, you should let your heart rate come back down to normal gradually and then stretch to avoid having your muscles tighten up. I question if this is being done.
 
I'm not a doctor or athletic trainer, but I've always been told after you engage in cardio exercise, you should let your heart rate come back down to normal gradually and then stretch to avoid having your muscles tighten up. I question if this is being done.
These hamstring injuries are becoming a problem. I am not a Doctor or Trainer either, but hamstring injuries take time to heal and can be reinjured if rushed back to soon.
 
Hamstring injuries and injuries in general are becoming a problem. Now it looks like Andrew Thomas who was having a pro bowl type break out year is limping around. Leonard Williams was listed with a knee injury this week. The severity who knows. Yet Joe Judge doesn't talk about injured players other his standard message which doesn't really mean anything.
I guess he learned that from his mentor Belichick. Judge is involved in all aspects of the team. I am not a Doctor, but if the way Giants train or practice is contributing to these injuries then he needs to do something about. I think last week he gave a presentation to the press about his training methods not being the source of injuries. May be he needs to reevaluate those methods because the Giants are losing players before key games. Those injuries will probably contribute to losses which will not reflect well on him.
 
Yesterday I saw something I have never seen in my many years of watching the Giants and football. Daniel Jones our franchise QB sustained a vicious collision that was scary. It was so obvious he was really hurt. Yet his Head Coach said he didn't see the play. I guess being on the 2 yard line trying to go in for a TD didn't catch his attention. When he was told the trainers were attending to Daniel he felt it wasn't necessary for him go on the field and check on Daniel. After the game Judge in his presser said that he didn't want to say much about Daniel Jones condition because the media would miss quote him. Interesting.
I noticed something else that was strange. Kadarius Toney was the only player/ coach to run on the field to check on his team mate. That says a lot about what kind of team mate KT is.

It wouldn't surprise me if by mid week Judge will be saying Daniel Jones wants to go back to practicing..... Maybe he wants Daniel back because he give's him the best chance to win.
This despite Judge's concern about injuries to all players as he explained in his presser.
 
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I am hoping this win helps the Giants turn their season around. Then reality sets in. It's going to be really hard given their schedule. I am not sure that the defense will play better this year. Leonard ( it's not about the money) Williams and James Bradberry had a career years last year which they may not be able to duplicate. Last year Williams had a lot of help from Dalvin Tomlinson (a team captain) and other role players along the defensive line. Patrick Graham last year liked to rotate capable defensive lineman into the line up. Those players are no longer with the team. I don't think the Giants are going to get as much production from Auston Johnson and Danny Shelton. The Shelton signing I didn't understand at all other he was on Pats in 2019 with Judge. I wish they still had Dalvin Tomlinson and Kyler Fackrell!

Any Thoughts?
This is my guess why the Giants defense hasn't played as well as last year's defense. Unfortunately I don't see how things are going to get any better on defense this season for many reasons!

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Kadarius Toney's play against Dallas was simply electric! He plays bigger than his actual size. Can't wait to see what he does when he's out on the edge. Will the defense have to roll a safety to his side. I know it's one game, but he was fun to watch. Bill Parcells had a great saying " let's not put him in Canton just yet" but just maybe he will put up Odell like numbers in the future!
 
Yesterday I saw something I have never seen in my many years of watching the Giants and football. Daniel Jones our franchise QB sustained a vicious collision that was scary. It was so obvious he was really hurt. Yet his Head Coach said he didn't see the play. I guess being on the 2 yard line trying to go in for a TD didn't catch his attention. When he was told the trainers were attending to Daniel he felt it wasn't necessary for him go on the field and check on Daniel. After the game Judge in his presser said that he didn't want to say much about Daniel Jones condition because the media would miss quote him. Interesting.
I noticed something else that was strange. Kadarius Toney was the only player/ coach to run on the field to check on his team mate. That says a lot about what kind of team mate KT is.

It wouldn't surprise me if by mid week Judge will be saying Daniel Jones wants to go back to practicing..... Maybe he wants Daniel back because he give's him the best chance to win.
This despite Judge's concern about injuries to all players as he explained in his presser.
Today Patricia Traina wrote excellent article "Giants Need to Ensure They Do Right by Daniel Jones After Scary Looking Head Injury" is a must read. I am no Doctor, but concussions are tricky and can take time to heal. Daniel as Judge says is a tough dude. Yet sometimes you need to protect players from themselves. I am not sure even if Jones passes concussion protocols if he should be playing this Sunday. Is the risk worth the reward of playing Jones to possibly win another game. That's the question the Giants are going to have deal with this weekend.
 
With the score 28-3 at the half, Sean McVay had too much class to run up the score on the NY Giants.
He took out his starters early in the 3rd quarter. Maybe it was a lesson he learned from his grandfather John McVay former Coach of the NY Giants. After leaving the NY Giants, John McVay went on to win 5 Super Bowls with the 49ers as Director of Player Personnel / GM.

Sean McVay and Les Snead have built a winning program with the Rams using all avenues available to them. Maybe the Giants could learn something from them on how to build a winning program.
 
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Patricia Traina

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With the score 28-3 at the half, Sean McVay had too much class to run up the score on the NY Giants.
He took out his starters early in the 3rd quarter. Maybe it was a lesson he learned from his grandfather John McVay former Coach of the NY Giants. After leaving the NY Giants, John McVay went on to win 5 Super Bowls with the 49ers as Director of Player Personnel / GM.

Sean McVay and Les Snead have built a winning program with the Rams using all avenues available to them. Maybe the Giants could learn something from them on how to build a winning program.
The Giants' biggest problem is they keep going back to the same well for certain positions. At some point it doesn't hurt to introduce new bloodlines into the mix.
 
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